Netscape Issues in 4.7 and 6.1

[rpratt]

Hi,

Im having a couple of problems surrounding Netscape.....big surprise huh!

In Netscape 4.7 the forum is slowing down so bad that it will occasionally grind to a hault and not pull up the pages. (Im on a cable modem) I installed another vbulletin for a company I work for and did not have this problem, so I assume it has something to do with the changes I made to the layout of the the forum Im presently working on. I use a series of nested tables with background colors. I dont see why that should present such a decrease in performance, but who knows.

Netscape 6 does not have the performance problem that 4.7 has, but it does slightly alter the layout of the forum in the thread section. The tables shift out of alignment. It looks like this:




I put a test forum up that you can view at:

http://www.royharris.tv/forum

I'd like to resolve at least one of these issues before we go live. That way we can offer some support for Netscape.

Thanks,
Ryan Pratt
php 4
mySQl 3.23.33
VB: 2.0.3

[Steve Machol]

The older versions of Netscape have significant performance issues with nested tables. I'm afraid there's no getting around this other than by reducing the tables.

As for NS 6.1, I have no experince with it. Sorry!

[Thomas P]

For Netscape 6.1 (don't use 6.0 or 6.01) I added:

<img width="130" height="1" src="{imagesfolder }/space.gif" alt=""></td>

in the postbit template below

$post[posts]</smallfont><br>

Btw: vB comes with the image space.gif by default...

This way IE isn't "disturbed" in displaying the page as usual and the right table part should be displayed correct in NN 6.01 now.
hth,
-Tom

[rpratt]

Hmm, doesn't VBulletin already use alot of nested tables?

Thomas,

I tried adding the spacer as you suggested but it still doesn't display right in N6.1. Don't know why, it sure seems like your suggestion should work fine. Any other ideas?

Ryan

[Steve Machol]

Originally posted by rpratt
Hmm, doesn't VBulletin already use alot of nested tables?

Yes it does, which is why adding even more is bound to break NS 4.x

[Thomas P]

Originally posted by rpratt
Thomas,

I tried adding the spacer as you suggested but it still doesn't display right in N6.1. Don't know why, it sure seems like your suggestion should work fine. Any other ideas?

Ryan

Hi Ryan,

have a look at http://mcseboard.de with N6.1 or at the attached screenshot (~46kb).
I think the display is fine... If it is correct in your eyes, then that's what I did (a.m.).
If not, please state what you mean
cu,
-Tom

P.S.: Please note that if inserting the line

<img width="130" height="1" src="{imagesfolder }/space.gif" alt=""></td>

you have to delete the blank after imagesfolder and before the curly brace }
Unfortunately if you post {imagesfolder } here correctly, it will be parsed by vB...

[Chen]

You mean this - {imagesfolder} ?

Thomas, I really really like the way your forums look in Netscape, it looks like it was specially built for that. Good job man.

[rpratt]

Thomas,

That was it, you were right on.

I just grabbed your code and pasted it in without really lookin' at it. I deleted the space and "puff" problem all gone.

Thanks for the help.

Ryan
P.S. Nice board!

[Thomas P]

Originally posted by FireFly
You mean this - {imagesfolder} ?

Thomas, I really really like the way your forums look in Netscape, it looks like it was specially built for that. Good job man.

Good, glad that it works, Ryan.

Thanks FireFly & Ryan!
I do prefer IE, but I think we owe Netscape some respect for their work before IE came...

cu,
-Tom


P.S.: It's too seducing, I have to test that now:

<img width="130" height="1" src="images/space.gif" alt=""></td>

<img width="130" height="1" src="images/space.gif" alt=""></td>

<img width="130" height="1" src="images/space.gif" alt=""></td> 

Uhh? Errrm... Ah!
You're a real mean vB hacker FireFly

{ima[i][/i]gesfolder}

Thanks for the hint! That rocks!

[Chen]

Hehe.

[Thomas P]

Hi Moderators,
I suggest to move this into the Hints & Tips subforum,
Thanks for considering,
-Tom

P.S.: @FireFly You may want to help the ppl. in this thread: http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showt...threadid=25999 out with your hint how to post a replacement variable w/o getting parsed

[Lian]

Thanks

Hi Tom,
thanks pal for your work on this and for your hard work on our vB in general.
I know that you invest a lot of time - we surely appreciate that!
I looove Netscape 6.1
Lian

[Paul]

Not to raise a dead thread here, but...

It seems to me that the correct image width to use for the spacer would be 167 pixels (accounting for the 4 pixel padding on each side).

Thanks for the workaround!
Paul